My salon told me to do this...!?!?!? [Archive]

TheMainEvent

11-05-2003, 06:26 PM

Okay, I went in for my FIRST tan ever in a tanning bed. I told them it was my first time and all that stuff and they got me started.

I put me in a 3200 bed (whatever that means) for 7 minutes. After I got done she said I should come in tomorrow and do this other bed for 30 minutes. I forget what kind of bed it was but she said it had a lot less uvb or whatever makes you burn and that it would help me get my base quicker.

I have an unlimited monthly membership. Should I go in tomorrow for this 30 min bed immediately after my first day of tanning ever?

She went on to say that I should do that 30 min bed every other day for the first 6 days. So it would be like this...

Today: 3200 bed 7 min
tomorrow: 30 min bed
next day: 3200 bed 7 min
next day: 30 min bed
next day: 3200 bed
next day: 30 bed

And after that she said I would just have to do the 30 min bed twice a month to maintain my base or something.

Is this bad advice? This was coming from a lady who I think was either the owner or the manager.

Thanks for you help.

P.S. How long will it take to know if I'm gonna burn???

Tpsyduck

11-05-2003, 06:35 PM

Personally, I wouldn't recommend tanning for so long so quickly, or so ofter. I'd recommend starting at your 7, then wait a day, then go in for 7 mins again and make sure ya don't burn. Then maybe up your mins by 2 or 3 every week, and go every other day, as long as you're not burning, and you should be fine and on your way to a nice base tan soon
This is just my opinion.

Summers Tan

11-05-2003, 06:49 PM

I'm thinking the 30 minute bed is a high pressure bed.The 7 minute sessions in between is probably to stimulate your melanin production in a bed with higher uvb.There are a few schools of thought on this method.I don't really know if this is cool in Kansas or not considering it's a regulated state.If I'm right about what the salon is doing & it involving high pressure-I doubt you will burn but there is a chance depending on a few factors.

TheMainEvent

11-05-2003, 07:02 PM

Actually, now that you mention it, I think she did say it was a high pressure bed. Something about it goes two layers deep or something.

Summers Tan, what factors can you think of that would make me burn?

Anya1976

11-05-2003, 07:03 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-05 17:49, Summers Tan wrote:
I'm thinking the 30 minute bed is a high pressure bed.The 7 minute sessions in between is probably to stimulate your melanin production in a bed with higher uvb.There are a few schools of thought on this method.I don't really know if this is cool in Kansas or not considering it's a regulated state.If I'm right about what the salon is doing & it involving high pressure-I doubt you will burn but there is a chance depending on a few factors.

yea i am sure it's probably a HP bed they wouldnt put a new tanner in a regular bed for that long if they are already starting him at 7 mins. but yea wait a week or so to move up time tan every other day and MOISTURIZE

Summers Tan

11-05-2003, 07:15 PM

Other factors would involve newness of lamps & how easy you burn right off the top of my head.I hate to assume anything by saying,"I know it's hp."You just never know for sure but that would be all I can imagine.Did you say you want to get your tan fast,MainEvent?I think it would be better not to take it so fast.I think you should tan every other day & alternate between the beds as well.Maybe once every couple weeks,you could try the method they described to get a color boost.On the conventional bed,I would follow Ducky's instructions for increasing your time.Even once you are getting your base.The hp can get you tan but you still will still burn in the other bed if you aren't careful.

Michael

11-05-2003, 07:33 PM

Everything that I've read here says that tanning everyday is not good. I know when I did my first session on totally white skin, I was pink for a day. The pinkness started later than afternoon and lasted until the next morning. It's supposed to take 24-48 hours for the cells to produce the melanin and for it to rise to the surface of the skin.

I'm no expert. Just relaying what I've picked up here.

-Michael

TheMainEvent

11-05-2003, 08:03 PM

SummersTan, Yeah, I'm sure she said it was a high pressure.

Also, she said this would help me get tan quicker without burning.

Anya, what do you think about be doing this every day tanning thing? NOTE: Keep in mind it is ONLY for the first 6 days alternating regular bed/high pressure bed.

Any other comments are appreciated.

TheMainEvent

11-05-2003, 08:04 PM

Michael, interesting info.

Anya1976

11-05-2003, 08:53 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-05 18:33, Michael wrote:
Everything that I've read here says that tanning everyday is not good. I know when I did my first session on totally white skin, I was pink for a day. The pinkness started later than afternoon and lasted until the next morning. It's supposed to take 24-48 hours for the cells to produce the melanin and for it to rise to the surface of the skin.

I'm no expert. Just relaying what I've picked up here.

-Michael

you are NEVER supposed to let yourself get pink. pink (as in sunburn) is OVERexposure and you are never supposed to over expose. the melanin in your skin will start building once it is exposed to uv. tanning is a process it will NOT happen over night.

Anya1976

11-05-2003, 08:56 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-05 19:03, TheMainEvent wrote:
SummersTan, Yeah, I'm sure she said it was a high pressure.

Also, she said this would help me get tan quicker without burning.

Anya, what do you think about be doing this every day tanning thing? NOTE: Keep in mind it is ONLY for the first 6 days alternating regular bed/high pressure bed.

Any other comments are appreciated.

i wouldn't do it everyday. i would tan every OTHER day. it's better for you and your skin. the HP bed should not burn you but you should still be careful. u will get the same results if u tan every other day. the tanning proccess takes up to 24 to 48hrs your tan is still developing after you get out of the bed. if u want to speed the process try taking a tanning suppliment that increases the melanin in your skin naturally like Tanaid. (www.tanaid.com)

TheMainEvent

11-05-2003, 09:27 PM

Anya, have you tried tanaid? does it work?

njchica

11-05-2003, 10:21 PM

ok a few things... first of all an HP bed should take FEWER MINUTES than a LP bed... if you do 7 in a LP (like I think I read) then you are **not** ready for HP. secondly.... you should NOT tan every day! 4 days MAX! give your skin a chance to rejuvenate and heal and look good! finally, Tan-Aid rocks.... it got me MUCH darker very fast.

Summers Tan

11-05-2003, 10:38 PM

Chica,are you meaning HP as in high performance?The HP as in high pressure bed at the salon I work at is 24 min.12 on each side-you turn over,it has a mattress-you know,an Ultrabronze.

BrownJen

11-05-2003, 10:42 PM

Yes, please don't tan every day. You should go every other day. If you are burning in a bed, you need to cut back on your time. There really isn't anything else I can add to this, everyone has already given you great advice.

MoraBella30

11-05-2003, 10:44 PM

I know of many people that start off in HP beds. And they only use those. Everyone has a different opinion on how to achieve a base tan.
My old salon suggests that people tan 3 day in a row, skip a day then do 2 more in a row, then they say your base should be devolped.
Another salon I freuqent Suggests that you tan every other day.
It is a very confusing subject, when so many people offer different choices.
Whatever you choose, Make sure u dont get pink while tanning, If you do stop tanning until all the pink/reddness is gone and make sure you moisturize regurarly. It make a world of difference.

Michael

11-06-2003, 02:37 AM

Quote:
you are NEVER supposed to let yourself get pink. pink (as in sunburn) is OVERexposure and you are never supposed to over expose. the melanin in your skin will start building once it is exposed to uv. tanning is a process it will NOT happen over night.
So how was I to know I would get pink? I didn't turn pink until three hours after my first tan which was only 6 minutes. We're talkin about skin that hasn't seen direct sunlight in about 4 years. Since it went away so fast, I figured it was just increased blood flow and not an actual burn.

-Michael

sunbunny

11-06-2003, 08:00 AM

Quote:
On 2003-11-06 01:37, Michael wrote:
Quote:
you are NEVER supposed to let yourself get pink. pink (as in sunburn) is OVERexposure and you are never supposed to over expose. the melanin in your skin will start building once it is exposed to uv. tanning is a process it will NOT happen over night.
So how was I to know I would get pink? I didn't turn pink until three hours after my first tan which was only 6 minutes. We're talkin about skin that hasn't seen direct sunlight in about 4 years. Since it went away so fast, I figured it was just increased blood flow and not an actual burn.

-Michael

Sometimes, it takes a few hours for sunburn to show up. Just do not tan until ALL the pinkness has gone away completely. And maybe drop your time back a minute. Work your way up slowly. There really was no way of knowing that you would get pink, other than the fact you said your skin in places hadn't seen sunlight in four years.

sunbunny

11-06-2003, 08:09 AM

TheMainEvent, I would NOT tan everyday. Go every other day. Yea, you'll get a tan fast the way they are telling you to tan, BUT, at what cost to your skin? You'll get just as good results by taking a day off in between sessions. And your skin will also be much healthier.

jayell79

11-06-2003, 12:52 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-05 20:27, TheMainEvent wrote:
Anya, have you tried tanaid? does it work?

yes they do work, pretty well I think. I love them. they aren't the pills that turn you orange w/o tanning. they are vitamins your body needs to produce that tan.
I would skip a day in between tanning, your skin will thank you. And yes you’re still producing color as late as 48 hours after a session.

Anya1976

11-06-2003, 09:02 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-06 01:37, Michael wrote:
Quote:
you are NEVER supposed to let yourself get pink. pink (as in sunburn) is OVERexposure and you are never supposed to over expose. the melanin in your skin will start building once it is exposed to uv. tanning is a process it will NOT happen over night.
So how was I to know I would get pink? I didn't turn pink until three hours after my first tan which was only 6 minutes. We're talkin about skin that hasn't seen direct sunlight in about 4 years. Since it went away so fast, I figured it was just increased blood flow and not an actual burn.

-Michael if you are skin typed and are very sensative to uv u should start off at 3 or 4 mins. and no pinkness that develops a few hours after tanning is OVEREXPOSURE. sometimes people are pink after tanning because of being hot but if the pink does not go away it's overexposure and u need to cut back on your minutes. and not tan until ALL the pinkness is gone

Anya1976

11-06-2003, 09:03 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-05 20:27, TheMainEvent wrote:
Anya, have you tried tanaid? does it work?
yea i have taken tan aid and it does work verrrrrrrrrrrrrry well. i would highly suggest using it

Sc0tt

11-06-2003, 09:31 PM

I know I am going to get bombarded for saying this - but I find that going every other day for a base just doesn't cut it, esp. in a base bed. JMO - I would start out going 4 days in a row, THEN go every other day. I know, you aren't supposesd to go everyday, and I don't, but I do/would when I'm trying to get a base tan. Just my opinion, it speeds it up a LOT faster .

And about rotating with the HP beds - I'm not sure as to whether you would burn, you shouldn't because its an HP. Heres what i would do. Day 1: Base bed Day2: HP Bed Day3: Base Bed Day4:HP bed Day5:no tanning Day6:base bed Day7:no tanning Day 8: your choice Day9: no tanning ETC ETC and then once you get dark enough, you can choose whichever bed you want

_________________
ForeverTan27[ This Message was edited by: ForeverTan27 on 2003-11-06 20:32 ]

Michael

11-06-2003, 10:19 PM

ok, now I'm lost. What is the difference between a "base bed" and an HP bed? I understand HP means High Pressure. Why would one not burn in an HP bed? What qualifies a bed as HP?

-Michael

Anya1976

11-06-2003, 10:34 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-06 21:19, Michael wrote:
ok, now I'm lost. What is the difference between a "base bed" and an HP bed? I understand HP means High Pressure. Why would one not burn in an HP bed? What qualifies a bed as HP?

-Michael

HP beds have more UVA (browning) rays than UVB (burning rays)
HP beds usually cost around 30 dollars a session when base beds do not.
base beds have long circular lamps and HP beds have rectangle face tanner lamps.
base beds usually have more equal of uva and uvb.

Anya1976

11-06-2003, 10:35 PM

Sc0tt

11-07-2003, 03:26 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-06 21:35, Anya1976 wrote:
Quote:
On 2003-11-06 20:31, ForeverTan27 wrote:
I know I am going to get bombarded for saying this - but I find that going every other day for a base just doesn't cut it, esp. in a base bed. JMO - I would start out going 4 days in a row, THEN go every other day. I know, you aren't supposesd to go everyday, and I don't, but I do/would when I'm trying to get a base tan. Just my opinion, it speeds it up a LOT faster .

_________________
ForeverTan27

[ This Message was edited by: ForeverTan27 on 2003-11-06 20:32 ] if u look at my color in my pics in my gallery i got that color from base beds. and i tan every other day or every couple days don't tell ME it cant be done

Anya, as i said, i was VOICING my opinion. I get so sick of how everytime, not just I, but anybody, DISAGREES with you, you have to make some smart comment or act like you "know it all". I didn't say you could get dark with only base beds, and going every other day. I was implying that it jump-starts your *BASE* tan if you go 4 days in a row, but *ONLY* for your first 4 days, then go every other day, if that. [ This Message was edited by: ForeverTan27 on 2003-11-07 14:27 ]

Sc0tt

11-07-2003, 03:58 PM

Oh and by the way, i didnt tell YOU it couldn't be done.

~*HoneyBee*~

11-07-2003, 04:07 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-06 20:31, ForeverTan27 wrote:
I know I am going to get bombarded for saying this - but I find that going every other day for a base just doesn't cut it, esp. in a base bed. JMO - I would start out going 4 days in a row, THEN go every other day. I know, you aren't supposesd to go everyday, and I don't, but I do/would when I'm trying to get a base tan. Just my opinion, it speeds it up a LOT faster .

And about rotating with the HP beds - I'm not sure as to whether you would burn, you shouldn't because its an HP. Heres what i would do. Day 1: Base bed Day2: HP Bed Day3: Base Bed Day4:HP bed Day5:no tanning Day6:base bed Day7:no tanning Day 8: your choice Day9: no tanning ETC ETC and then once you get dark enough, you can choose whichever bed you want

_________________
ForeverTan27

[ This Message was edited by: ForeverTan27 on 2003-11-06 20:32 ]

That's exactly how I develop my base tans when I need too. I go for a few days in a row and then take a couple off and do 3 on again. I get soooo dark this way.

Every other day wasn't cutting it for me either. [ This Message was edited by: ~*HoneyBee*~ on 2003-11-07 15:08 ]

sunbunny

11-07-2003, 04:38 PM

OK. Part of our job as mods is to give *safe* tanning advice. Personally, I practice what I preach, as do I believe the other mods. Tanning every day is not the advice we give out. It takes anywhere from 24 to 48 hours for a tan to develop. Sunburns develop much faster. I DO NOT tan everyday to develop my base tan. The beds and lamps where I tan are awesome. I go every other day, and still develop my base. Am I dark in just a few days? No. Do I have a nice base tan in a few days? YES. Then I start working on developing darker color. Still, by going every other day, sometimes even less. Tanning is not a race. Take your time, develop your tan slowly. That's MY advice.

njchica

11-07-2003, 04:40 PM

I am just starting back after taking a few months off... there is NO WAY I could tan every day without seriously overexposing myself. Sure, once you've gotten a good base tan and are looking to get darker, you might be able to tan 2 days in a row without any problems... but a beginning tanner whose skin hasn't seen sun in 4 years should not be tanning on consecutive days.

Tanning is a process, not a race! It takes time and cannot be rushed.

njchica

11-07-2003, 04:45 PM

bunnygirl, we must be on the same wavelength!

Sc0tt

11-07-2003, 04:52 PM

Like I said in my post: I would get bombarded for saying this...and guess what: I did
Like I also said in my post: This is just my opinion.
When i start out fresh with PALE skin and go 4 days in a row, AT an exposure time that i WONT burn at, I don't burn.
And lastly, all i'm going to say about anya is i cannot stand her !

njchica

11-07-2003, 04:54 PM

ForeverTan, personal attacks are not appropriate here on the site.

LacyRose

11-07-2003, 05:01 PM

My OPINION on this subject,,, Talk to your salon owner,, they can tell you what is best for your skin type...

njchica

11-07-2003, 05:05 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-07 16:01, LacyRose wrote:
My OPINION on this subject,,, Talk to your salon owner,, they can tell you what is best for your skin type...

good call LacyRose!

LacyRose

11-07-2003, 05:11 PM

Thank you NJ!! I think sometimes we just need to remember that works for us is not necessarily what's best or safe for someone else..

Summers Tan

11-07-2003, 07:04 PM

Well,now we are back to the beginning post of this thread since his salon told him to tan every day.Lol!

LacyRose

11-07-2003, 08:56 PM

I don't personally agree with tanning everyday but I also feel a salon owner SHOULD know more than I do...

Summers Tan

11-07-2003, 10:34 PM

You would be surprised,though.

LacyRose

11-08-2003, 08:56 AM

As I said, they SHOULD know more. I've been in the situation of using a salon where the owner didn't have a clue so I asked the professionals here....

engfant

11-08-2003, 09:32 AM

Quote:
base beds usually have more equal of uva and uvb.

You couldn't be further from the truth about this. Most base (20min) beds put out between 1.0%-3% UVB. Even the highest UVB lamp puts out between 5-9%. (DONT EVER USE A 9% UVB bulb. Unnecessary) HP (high pressure)beds just put out a TON of UVA which IS NOT SAFER THAN LP (low pressure) as it can lead to DEEP tissue scaring. You may not burn but at least the UVB overexposure makes you "pay" for your stupidity. A UVA overexposure does it's damage quietly. I don't know about that rediculous tanning schedule that started this post but it just goes to show you that most people that own/run salons think it's a big game and can do whatever you want.

boobrandt

11-08-2003, 09:54 AM

Sigh.
I go whenever I want, and use whatever beds I want. I use good lotions, and never burn or even get pink. I think every other day is good advice, but I don't necessarily follow that. I think we all have very different skin types and skin sensitivies, and I think as long as you are not turning pink (or worse) you're probably doing okay. (Waiting for the reprimand here..)

essuntiallytan

11-08-2003, 10:33 AM

Well as a salon owner i ask questions and find out what skin type that my client is and what exactly the color they are looking for.. and if they ..... can achieve that color at all being that a skin type1 is not gonna get a tan at all...make sure where ever your tanning your salon is educated!!! it sounds to me that some are not!!

TheMainEvent

11-08-2003, 01:15 PM

Is there a way I can find out my own skin type without asking the people at the salon?

njchica

11-08-2003, 06:28 PM

yes we have a link to a skin typing form somewhere around here.... let me search for it....

njchica

11-08-2003, 06:38 PM

here is a Skin Typing Form developed by Don Smith... You can print it out and figure out what your skin type is.

http://www.tantalk.com/uploads/pdf/02-ST-st-3-3-UVR-RI.PDF

_________________

"Thank God you're here. My head is spinning and not in a good way!" --Karen Walker[ This Message was edited by: njchica on 2003-11-08 17:39 ]

RainCloud

11-08-2003, 08:47 PM

MainEvent,
I just have one question. Just because the salon suggested the 30 min bed, did they actually say they were going to put you in for the full exposure? I mean, they started with 7 min and I am guessing the 3200 means 32 bulb bed which probably has a 20 min max. I don't know how many bulbs the 30 min bed has, but I would find out and for how long they are going to suggest you stay in it. However, this all begs the question of should you go everyday. I don't think it is healthy just starting out, but it is difficult to say not knowing your skin type. Only you know your body and can determine if the exposure is too much You don't want to get burned that cause’s skin damage. Slow steady consistency is key to a safe healthy tan!

TheMainEvent

11-09-2003, 03:06 AM

Thank you for the skin typing links, I will check them out.

RainCloud, the salon suggested that for my first 6 days of tanning i tan every day as follows:

day1 - 3200 bed for 7 min
day2 - high pressure bed for 30
repeat for days 3,4,5,and6

Yes, they suggest I stay in the hp bed for the whole 30 min.

What peees me off more is that I DID NOT go in day 2 for the 30 min bed but took the day off b/c of your alls advice. Then, I went in on day 3 to do another session of the 3200 bed. They asked me if i wanted to do 9 min! I said no! 7 is fine. What if I had never come to this site??!! I would have been sun raped. Actually, after my second 7 min session, I got a little pink in some areas mainly around the waist area that would be covered by boxers or a swim suit. I gotta wait til it heals and go in for 5 probably.

njchica

11-09-2003, 12:48 PM

MainEvent, it's scary that the salon actually recommended that tanning schedule to you... but I'm happy that you are using your head and tanning moderately. Be sure to take good care of your skin and moisturize regularly to help hold your color and keep your skin looking great.

Summers Tan

11-09-2003, 07:54 PM

Even if you had tanned in the HP & not skipped a day,they shouldn't have tried to up your time yet since the HP is so low in UVB.It wouldn't have made a difference.

RydeTheLTRAIN

11-10-2003, 12:24 AM

tell your salon about this website!

TheMainEvent

11-10-2003, 06:15 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-09 23:24, RydeTheLTRAIN wrote:
tell your salon about this website!

I will--at the same time I tell them to get a ****ing clue!

Sheila

11-11-2003, 05:40 PM

Kiddies ~

Did we ever get the actual Equipment and actual Tan Time for SURE on this?

I've been reading other threads.... watching the progression of Main Event's salon experiences ~ But being fully aware how EASY it is to misunderstand what is written ~ I guess I would like to be a little more CLEAR on what the salon's intentions are.

We all do things differently - but that should never enter the realm of dangerously.

3-4 short (yet increasing exposures) in an every other day pattern would have been the 'best' to do prior to going high UVA .... there would be MORE secretions to brown.....

Also, it seems odd that 20 bucks a month includes an HP bed...... if an upgrade fee was needed ~ I would call the salon owner Dairy Queen cause that is milking a client with little to no results!

typically (for fair skinned people) the first session shows NOTHING.... that is what you should be going for - dramatic results usually = burn.....

The second session would have been increased in MY salon if #1 had the desired no results - but we also caution that #2 (even if at the same #1 expo time) tends to get the sternum and 'bikini' area pink.... appropriate use of towels for atleast 1/2 of the session is the way we avoid TOO pink.

I don't agree with this exposure schedule that M.E. was given.... even a seasoned tanner should never tan daily..... I'll be really peeed if there are upgrade fees

Val

11-11-2003, 05:42 PM

Main event thats a pretty crazy schedule! Thank god for forums like these were people can get better information.

sunbunny

11-11-2003, 06:31 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-11 16:40, Sheila wrote:
Kiddies ~

Did we ever get the actual Equipment and actual Tan Time for SURE on this?

I've been reading other threads.... watching the progression of Main Event's salon experiences ~ But being fully aware how EASY it is to misunderstand what is written ~ I guess I would like to be a little more CLEAR on what the salon's intentions are.

We all do things differently - but that should never enter the realm of dangerously.

3-4 short (yet increasing exposures) in an every other day pattern would have been the 'best' to do prior to going high UVA .... there would be MORE secretions to brown.....

Also, it seems odd that 20 bucks a month includes an HP bed...... if an upgrade fee was needed ~ I would call the salon owner Dairy Queen cause that is milking a client with little to no results!

typically (for fair skinned people) the first session shows NOTHING.... that is what you should be going for - dramatic results usually = burn.....

The second session would have been increased in MY salon if #1 had the desired no results - but we also caution that #2 (even if at the same #1 expo time) tends to get the sternum and 'bikini' area pink.... appropriate use of towels for atleast 1/2 of the session is the way we avoid TOO pink.

I don't agree with this exposure schedule that M.E. was given.... even a seasoned tanner should never tan daily..... I'll be really peeed if there are upgrade fees

Guys, Sheila knows her stuff. Listen to her.

njchica

11-11-2003, 07:54 PM

Thank you Sheila for chiming in on this issue. We appreciate your assistance.

BrownJen

11-11-2003, 10:56 PM

Thanks for posting, Sheila!!

Sheila

11-12-2003, 08:32 PM

Not at all ~ thanks for the invite.... However, I fear I may have killed the messenger ... or at the very least scared away the Main Event

TheMainEvent

11-17-2003, 09:24 PM

Well, it has been awhile since I have checked on this thread. I wish I would have known some of the info in the later posts before going tanning tonight. I'll recap what I have done thus far. By the way, I have been using the Climax lotion by Cal Tan.

The first time I went tanning I went for 7 min in a 3200 bed. I felt that I got just a tad pink so I stay out for about 3 days. I went back again and did it for five minutes in a 3200 bed. The only area that got pink was my waste(sp?) area. I stayed out for 3 days to let the pink go away and then I went back and did 30 minutes in an UltraBronze which was tonight. They told me I wouldn't burn and I'd be fine. Well, I just got home from that ultrabronze session, and no surprize, I was overexposed again.

Lessons to be learned? Don't trust your salon. And learn from my mistakes. I don't think I'm burnt bad but I hope I don't have any hidden damage.

The Tan World in Olathe, Kansas needs somebody to call and tell them about the serious misinformation they are providing people. I'm tempted to post their phone number.

Thank you everyone for your time effort put forth in providing me with valuable tanning information. And Sheila, you didn't scare me off

Sheila

11-18-2003, 03:10 PM

Ahhhhh ~ glad to hear it MainEvent ... if I may ~ I'd like to discuss an issue with your 'pinkness' and wait time between exposures.

For many of us fair kiddies (and I am ONE of em) our skin is sensitive. The Pink is not necessarily a 'burn' and can really be heat flush. How does one tell? a burn hurts - especially in the shower! The wait is good (IF) you were burned ~ but is counterproductive if just heat flush ~ here is why:

When you have your first exposure - the goal is to stimulate the melanocytes to produce the secretion melanin.... and the window of opportunity to brown that secretion only has a 24-48 hour availablity....

So.... by waiting 3 days between sessions in effect is having your FIRST session all over again - c me say?.... The UltraBronze session after 72 hours after the fact had LITTLE to NO melanin available at the appropriate level to BROWN - and I still feel YOU should NOT be doing this kind of session now any way.

My suggestion:

going in an every other day frequency - 5 min .... 7 min.... 9 min....if you are getting 'tender on any sessions' repeat that SAME time (no increase) but try to remain within the 48 hour window.

Are you taking any supplements for weight training? Any other Meds that could make you extra photosensitive? Hooked on eating a pound of celery Cold/ Allergy meds? Are ya sure to moisturize the skin after bathing?

Are these people charging you EXTRA for that ultra bronze?

BTW - I would have killed ya had you messed with MY Baby Ruth

TheMainEvent

11-19-2003, 12:42 PM

Hey Sheila

I see what you are saying about waiting too long in between sessions. Your reasoning makes very good sense.

The DO charge me for the ultrabronze. I get half price upgrades b/c it is my first month which comes out to $5.50. I take it that's a rip off?

The only supplements I take for weight training right now are protein and glutamine. I'll be taking creatine in the near future. Do you think any of these would make a difference in my tanning?

I occasionally take allergy meds but not frequently.

Here's my question about your tanning schedule.
The first time I tanned I did 7 min which I think was a tad too much. After that session I felt like my skin was a tad crisp. It really wasn't red but just had that feeling like I was a tad burned. The area that was pink was around my waste. Also, I think my knee caps were a tad burned also. I'm thinking I should start at 5 for sure, or maybe even 4. Do you think 4 minutes would be okay?

How long does heat flush last by the way?

essuntiallytan

11-19-2003, 01:05 PM

If i may put my two cents in...ME what is your nationality?

essuntiallytan

11-19-2003, 01:11 PM

Being pink coming out from the tanning bed is normal......turning pink few hours later.............you burnt............i think Shiela by the way hi shiela from Minn.i am also on TanTalk anyway..is right...3 days you are starting over by waiting that long in between...every other day and if you are pink at the time say 7 mins still stay at that time then go up another min the following time.....keep going up from there..till you get your base you can go up 2 min from there

_________________
perception is ones reality!![ This Message was edited by: essuntiallytan on 2003-11-19 12:14 ]

Sheila

11-19-2003, 01:21 PM

Hello MainEvent ~

#1 - let me put it to you this way. You pay 20 bucks for a month of tanning right? And the recommendation is to 'upgrade' (and it appears that you would be getting this recommendation at least 4-6 times during that month) - which really means you will be paying as much as $53.00 for that month ..... I am NOT against upgrade beds... I am against selling em BEFORE they are appropriate and in a way that does not give the client results!! ok...breathing deeply now

#2 - yes, herbal suppliments, weight training suppliments and allergy meds are possible 'photosensitizers'.... meaning for SOME people - they can actually cause you to get overexposed quicker then without using em. Your tanning time needs to take these drugs and your skin type into consideration when choosing the bed strength and tan time. In my experience - those of us that take the Allergy meds DAILY do not have as much problem than those that take AS NEEDED only.... anything that SUPRESSES your system will also make the PROTECTIVE functions sluggish too.

'Feeling Crisp'.... dry and tight? Had you used a lotion (accelerator) in the bed the first few times or where you in dry?

Skin that is dry tends to feel tight and burn very easily.... already depleted of moisture - the session in the bed just makes it worse. I noticed somewhere you mentioned Cal Tan Climax.... not my favorite beginner accelerator but certainly better than going in with nothing on.

If you are actually getting (overexposed) in the waist area - I am assuming we are talking the entire area that normally does not see the Light of Day ( ) were you advised to use towels to provide coverage for at least 1/2 your sessions? These areas need to be brought along SLOWER as they did not have the prior exposures as the arms and legs did.

Heat Flush can be pink... even bright pink ~ but does not hurt or feel tender at all.... easy to touch and responds well with a cool lotion or tepid shower.... it actually can stay visible on very fair skinned people for 24 + hours but for most it is gone by the next morning.

I would start from scratch with your tanning schedule. Get on the every other day mode. If you feel more comfy with 4 mins to start - go for it. Be aware that anyday you take an allergy med and when you start the Cretin that you should not ADVANCE your tan time or bed strength - - SEE FIRST HOW your body responds.

njchica

11-19-2003, 02:07 PM

I am continually amazed at how thorough Sheila is when determining exposure times. The girls at my salon just ask me how long I want to go in for and that's that...

I recently started tanning regularly again after a few months off. I think my 2nd session back the girl said to me "20 minutes?" I agreed at first purely out of habit and then was like "wait! no way! I'll do 15 thanks." That chick would have let me fry in there if I didn't know better...

thanks S for taking the time to help us out. We all learn so much from you.

TheMainEvent

11-19-2003, 04:43 PM

I do moisturize (not that I admit it elsewhere) at the advice of you all. I bought some big bottle of neutrogena lotion. I have used the Climax lotion during all of my tanning sessions.

TheMainEvent

11-19-2003, 04:43 PM

I do moisturize (not that I admit it elsewhere) at the advice of you all. I bought some big bottle of neutrogena lotion. I have used the Climax lotion during all of my tanning sessions.

My salon never mentioned a thing about using a towel for anything. In fact, I was wondering what the purpose of the towel in the tanning room was in the first place. I always used it to just wipe excess lotion off of my hands.

I'm considering going in for 4 minutes today. Do you all think this is fine? Do you all think I should leave my "waste" area covered the entire session? It is burnt (Not badly thank God!!!).

My opinion of my salon gets worse day by day....

Thank you all for you input Keep it comin!!

_________________
In sixth grade, I instigated a fight. Two guys held the kid's arms, my buddy punched his stomach a few times. All I did was knock the kid's Baby Ruth out of his hand, and remember him sadly saying "aw my Baby Ruth". I felt bad. Sorry kid.[ This Message was edited by: TheMainEvent on 2003-11-19 15:46 ]

TheMainEvent

11-19-2003, 04:49 PM

Quote:
On 2003-11-19 12:05, essuntiallytan wrote:
If i may put my two cents in...ME what is your nationality?

I'm caucasion. Brown hair with bright blue eyes (lol, only way to describe them, they're not dark but not real light).

I've never been tan at all except on my arms, neck, face, and maybe a tad on my legs.

Maybe I can get a pick on here.

Sheila

11-19-2003, 05:20 PM

Thanks for the nice words Chica ~ and glad to hear you time managed your session!! Sometimes Bigger Salons do not always mean the Best-est in service

MainEvent ~ Neutrogena makes a nice product. One thing you should check is to see what level of SPF is in it (as most of their products DO have spf involved).... I am NOT against SPFs... just against people not being aware of em

Towels in a salon have a variety of uses.... mopping up one's sweat after a session is always considered Proper ettiquette.... but also - many people do not tan their face for the full session and cover with a towel.... My advise would be to use a sock for the junk and a towel for the butt....

As you can see - I am never embarrassed to talk about anything - many people have a TON of questions on how to tan (and protect) their best-est attributes - but they are too embarrassed to ask their salon staff.

Gotta love the net!