Is it just me?

[Greta]

Or does it seem like nine times out of ten on this board everyone's (well almost everyone's) answer is always "spend more money"?
You want to get darker, well spend more on lotion, get bigger or more frequent upgrades,etc. Is this actually a place where Tanning snobs reign? All of us do not have pockets that deep so how about a little practical advice for the rest of us, please?

[meltdbutta]

Im sorry that you feel this way...
I have posted some good tips in 'Tanner's Den'
You can keep your skin moisturized fine with lotions that you are comfortable purchasing...
What exactly do you want??? Do you want to get darker???
How dark are you???
How can i help you???

melty

[Anya1976]

well getting darker does not nessessarily mean spend more money. as long as you use a moisturizer (without mineral oil) it can be any moisturizer you choose, do use an indoor tanning lotion from the salon though or a salon quality product it doesn't have to be the most expensive, i personally like some of the emerald bay lotions. I personally do not upgrade as often as i would like cus alas i am not rich. I use the base beds but i make sure always use lotions as to get as much as i can out of the beds i DO use.

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[Greta]

I want to get darker, my salon only has base beds and one that has a facial tanner in it, but I can use that one anytime I want. I cannot afford a ton on lotions, so I need some cheaper alternatives.....I have asked this question several times and everyone acts like that unless you are spending 70 on body lotion and 40 on face lotion you are not taking care of your skin yadda yadda yadda. This does not help me, I simply cannot afford that much all the time. I have a family and am going back to college.I splurge when I can but to be honest if I have no chance at getting a good tan why waste my money going to a salon at all?

Anya, thank you. you always seem to understand that high quality and top dollar are not always the same. I like your down to earth approach to things.

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[Anya1976]

oh yea it may take a bit longer to get as dark as you want by using the base beds but if u take care of your skin and use lotion you should reach a level of tan that can be reached by your skin.... remember everyone's skin is different and some people will never get as dark as other people. I personally will never get as dark as people of southern italian decent since yes i am italian but my family is from northern italy, land of blonde blue eyed italians, and the polish in me helps with that too lol

[star]

well this place is owned by people who own salons right? so it is in their interest that everyone spend as much cash as possible at the salon. i wonder if the mods are getting something in return for promoting certain brands and talking other brands down. sure looks that way to me.

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[Anya1976]

nope i certainly am doing this for free. believe me i'd LOVE to get free stuff but that just isn't happening. and yes this site is owned by a salon owner but it is pretty much run by us mods.

[meltdbutta]

Hmmmm
I have a CalTan suggestion...
have you ever tried maxlotion???
It retails for like $18...
Nice moisturization...
And their Facial product is $20..Illuminate...Which is a really good product for the facial skin...

And of course, there is Emerald bay products which i think are great lotions also...
And then there is Carribean Gold lotions, which was just re-done for 2003....
And there is JA basics....Nice products that are a lower price point...

Try the layer of accelerating Oil on top of a lotion, but ask the salon first...
This gives good magnification, and I see great 'perk' colour...

hope to have helped out a little

melty

[Anya1976]

and i have to say in my own defense i haven't really talked brands down since i have pretty much liked everything i've tried (i am not a big fan of ETS lotions but there are exceptions to everything since i have bought a few AG and SB lotions)

[meltdbutta]

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On 2003-05-09 17:09, star wrote:
well this place is owned by people who own salons right? so it is in their interest that everyone spend as much cash as possible at the salon. i wonder if the mods are getting something in return for promoting certain brands and talking other brands down. sure looks that way to me.

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Sounds like someone has a lil' Conspiracy theory...

melty

[Greta]

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On 2003-05-09 17:06, greta wrote:


Anya, thank you. you always seem to understand that high quality and top dollar are not always the same. I like your down to earth approach to things.

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[ This Message was edited by: greta on 2003-05-09 17:09 ] allow me to quote myself lol, I think you have been great about offering reasonably priced good quality lotion recommendations.

[Anya1976]

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On 2003-05-09 17:06, greta wrote:Anya, thank you. you always seem to understand that high quality and top dollar are not always the same. I like your down to earth approach to things.

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[ This Message was edited by: greta on 2003-05-09 17:09 ]
well since i am not rolling in cash i have to have a down to earth feel of things i personally sometimes get a more expensive product, but generally i stay in the 30 to 40 dollar range and i really hate going over 50 dollars for a lotion. and when i do buy a lotion i look at how many ounces are in the bottle that i am buying and how long it is going to last me. I have a few lotions to rotate but when i first started buying lotion i would only buy ONE at time and 5oz where it will only last me maybe 7 or 8 tans and it's costing me over 40 dollars is insane. if you get a few lotions either synergy tan or emerald bay or even maxlotion and rotate them u wont be going thru them as quickly.but i would suggest getting a good facial lotion something specifically made for the delicate facial tissue.

[njchica]

greta, believe me... my job does not pay well and you probably have more $$ to spend on lotions than I. I will admit that I do not like Emerald Bay products.... but you'll never find a post from me endorsing X-Power or Theory or any other $70+ lotions..... I've never even tried them!

Most of the stuff I use is mid-priced lotion.... I personally, haven't used many lower-priced products with good results, other than Brown Envy. That is just my experience. But, I am not a price snob who insists on buying the most expensive lotion, either. I don't have the $$ to!

The tanner mods (Anya, Meltdbutta, and myself) pretty much run things as we decide to.... we don't get paid nor do we get any kind of lotion kickbacks. The 3 of us love tanning and lotions that we've tried so much that we are happy to be able to help people for free. I hope that youall are enjoying iamTan.com.... I certainly am.

[Anya1976]

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On 2003-05-09 19:15, njchica wrote:
The tanner mods (Anya, Meltdbutta, and myself) pretty much run things as we decide to.... we don't get paid nor do we get any kind of lotion kickbacks. The 3 of us love tanning and lotions that we've tried so much that we are happy to be able to help people for free. I hope that youall are enjoying iamTan.com.... I certainly am.

i wish we got paid or stuff for free lol i spend all these hours on this site cus i love it here lol call me a dork say i have no life lol that's ok lol tanning has been my obsession for over a couple years (since i've tanned year round) when i was a seasonal tanner i was not as into lotion but now lol hold me back

[TravisMT81]

the only person that says you got to buy the best is TanPimp. Though imust admit I try to buy moderate to the best products.

[colorgod]

I love my lotions. But, no you don't have to spend a fortune to be tanned!

[Anya1976]

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On 2003-05-09 22:44, TravisMT81 wrote:
the only person that says you got to buy the best is TanPimp. Though imust admit I try to buy moderate to the best products.

well if he can keep buying the most expensive products more power to him but i personally will find something a bit cheaper... i mean heck i have some higher priced lotions the amount of money in my bag is up there lol but i refuse to spend more than 50 dollars on a lotion unless it is truely incredible... i love x power and speed but i can't afford 70 dollars on ONE lotion, i mean if i had an extra 70 to kick around yea maybe but i just couldn't justify it i'd have to go without something or my animals would have to go without and that just isn't happenin

[teresa]

The old theory "you get what you pay for' applies here too. The higher the price the more benefits and features you get. Do you have to use the most expensive??? No, to get the darkest fastest and maintain your skin the best the most expensive will do that but there are alot of midpriced products that will get you nearly the same end result over time.
Just the same as if I drove a Cadillac(I don't but hubby does...lol), I'd have more benefits and features, get there more comfortably than in a Buick. But the Buick person would have more benefits and features than the person driving the Escort (do they still make them???)

[Greta]

I am not looking for arguments about why you should spend more teresa hon, I am looking for more reasonalbly priced, good quality lotion recommendations.

[PanAnna]

Greta, maybe you should try being more specific with us. Why don't you tell us what you want to spend for a lotion and we will try to find the best quality for that price range?

Teresa really knows her stuff and there are a lot of others that also know a lot about lotions here at iamtan (I am NOT included in this category). Everyone will try to find answers for you and point you in the right direction.

I don't believe that the answers here have been "spend more money" but rather it just appears that way because a lot of the higher $ items do bring about faster results but again that is not always the case either.

Indoor tanning costs money and there is really no way around it if you want to do it "right", even with the bare necessities of basic indoor tanning lotion, basic moisturizer, basic eye protection, basic tanning packages, etcetera.

We all want the most for our money at whatever price range we are looking at. The only way I'd ever pay $70 for a lotion is if I was pretty darn sure it was the ONLY thing that would get me the results I was looking for (ie., the Holy Grail as you referred to in another post) and then, of course, it would be worth it to me because I wouldn't want to live without it. There are others who probably wouldn't ever think about spending less than $50-70 for a lotion. We all have different criteria that we look at with regard to buying products.

[teresa]

You also have to remember the more you spend on products the better your tanning results and the longer it lasts. You will end up spending far less on taning sessions and using up you valuable time.
I personally would rather use better skincare products, tan less frequently (I only tan about 3 times per month) and have more time to do things with my family and friends.
I think no matter how you look at it you are going to spend the same in the end..less on products, more on tanning sessions, and your valuable time or more on products and less on tanning sessions and have more time.

[Greta]

I simply do not have the amounts of money being talked about on this board, and am not willing to go into debt for it lol. I have $50 to spend for about 2 months on lotions. That does not leave me alot of options, and I am beginning to think I am wasting my time going to a salon at all, if no matter how I look at it I will spend the same. I cannot spend what I do not have you know......I hope this isn't coming across as sarcastic, it isn't. If people like me are not welcome to tan in salons because we can't spend $80 every month on lotion then I wish someone would just say it outright. I get a monthly unlimited at my salon so no I will not be spending more on the sessions, so instead of the yadda yadda, can you make a recommendation for a high quality lotion in the price range I mentioned?

[PanAnna]

How quickly do you go through a bottle of lotion? You said you tan just about every day right?

[Greta]

yes, and I use quite a bit, a bottle usually lasts me about 8 or 9 visits.

[PanAnna]

I think Brown Envy retails for around $15 for an 8.5 oz bottle. That is one that is highly recommended by a lot of people and you could get 3-4 bottles for $50.

I'll keep looking...

[teresa]

Alright...let's analze this....if you tan 3 times per week (noone needs to go more than that) that will be 12 sessions per month. You should use 1/2 ounce of lotion per visit so that means you need 6 ounces of lotion per month. Most bottles come in 8 oz size so you will need 3/4 of a bottle per month. So allowing $25 per month for lotion comes out to lotions in the $35 dollar range. Now that we know where you are with that.......recommendation s for $35 lotion?????

My personal recomendation would be bi-polar or neurotic by Designer Skin.

Hope this helps!!!!

[Greta]

thx

[teresa]

Ok...while I was analzing your situation......you guys through in a whole bunch more catches.

1. NOONE needs to tan everyday....you are just setting your skin up to fail your tanning abilities. (And yes I am trying to make money off of tanning and NO I would never recommend more than every other day, no matter how much money you have)
2. If you are using mositurizer at home afer shower and after tan....and I don't even care if it is from Wal-Mart (I'd much rather see a pro brand but). Your skin will be better hydrated and absorb less of the more expensive taning lotion, therefore you will need to use less. 1/2 ounce should be more than enough!!!

[PanAnna]

John Abate/Cote d’ Azur Creme Brulee $35 for a 7.5 oz bottle. I love this stuff. It smells divine to me personally.

[Greta]

Teresa, do you not have a recommendation for a lower priced lotion? that is my question......

[teresa]

Loking through my catalog right now for $35 lotions.....

CalTan accomplice $32
CalTan BeachBumRum $37
CalTan CuO2 $37
JA Formula S (tingle factor1) $26
JA Formula A (tingle factor 2) $28.30
Cocoa Beach Platinum $30
Designer Skin Drama Queen $32

These are some....what brands does your salon carry

[teresa]

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On 2003-05-10 08:41, greta wrote:
I have $50 to spend for about 2 months on lotions. That does not leave me alot of options,

I gave you the best tanning prescription that I could based on what you told me.

[njchica]

greta, we've thrown suggestions at you for Brown Envy, Swedish Hemp Creme, Dark and Dazed.... what else can we do for you? look at what your salon has and start sampling their lower-priced lotions to see if you like them. We can only tell you what WE like and what works for US. It's up to you do to the rest. Teresa has given you some really great advice here... thanks Teresa for hanging around and sharing your knowledge with us.

[PanAnna]

The Swedish Hemp Creme is around the $25-30 price range, isn't it? Maybe that would work for you, too, Greta. I have seen a picture of njchica and she is wayyyyyyy dark so maybe you could get some of the same results from that as njchica did.

[teresa]

I am just trying to recommend what is best for you and your skin and staying in your budget. I truly think my presciption will give you the best results (I have been in the business for over 20 years).

But if you feel that tanning everyday with lower quality lotions is less harsh on YOUR skin...it is your skin and noone else has to live in it...the I quess that is what you should do.

That is all I'm going to give for advice in this topic now....buhbye!!!

[colorgod]

Greta, the Swedish Hemp Creme retails for $26, and it's awesome. It really conditions the skin, and you could get two bottles for right over $50. I don't think you'll be sorry if you chose that lotion.

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[Greta]

maybe I am reading something into the posts here, but what is with all the attitude? PRACTICAL ADVICE IS NOT THAT HARD.......and once again, if you don't have that much money to spend here comes the crap...like
*posted by teresa*
But if you feel that tanning everyday with lower quality lotions is less harsh on YOUR skin...it is your skin and noone else has to live in it...the I quess that is what you should do.

That is all I'm going to give for advice in this topic now....buhbye!!!


all this because I asked for a recommendation? seems to me like this is the old "you must not care about your skin" crap, which if that were true, why would I bother to ask at all?
you guys need to really watch how you go off so defensive over a simple question, I mean it is like 6th grade....

[texasblonde]

I just picked up on this thread about 5 minutes ago and I have to say that I don't think anyone has been giving attitude concerning your question. What I heard in Teresa's last post was frustration because everytime she tries to give you a reccomendation you reject it. Her skin care advice (tan every other day, moisturize, use lotion) is the same you would get from any responsible salon owner who even halfway knew his/her stuff. If you don't like the answers you're getting (and there have been some very nice answers and practical suggestions) why keep asking the same question? No one can tell you what low-priced lotion to put on that will work perfectly with your skin the first time around; you've got to try some and see what happens. If you don't want to commit to a full bottle, maybe you could try some samples first (but that would cost more in the long run).

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[Greta]

I have not rejected any recs or advice where are you getting that?

[star]

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On 2003-05-10 11:44, shauna23 wrote:
I just picked up on this thread about 5 minutes ago and I have to say that I don't think anyone has been giving attitude concerning your question. yes they did. implying that if she 'doesn't like to spend more on quality products that take care of her skin' she is doing something wrong or doesn't measure up.

[PanAnna]

I respectfully disagree with you Star. I have been in on this thread, too. Teresa was trying to suggest to Greta that if she tanned less (which will be better for her in the long run and there is a LOT of information out there about proper skin care and tanning) she could choose a higher end $ lotion because she would not be using as much lotion if she was tanning less. Teresa has been in this business for a long time and if she isn't comfortable recommending lotions for less than $30 then I say it is because she knows from experience what she is talking about and not necessarily that she is trying to scam someone for more money. Obviously what Greta buys does not directly impact teresa so there is no reason for teresa not to recommend what she feels is best regardless of the price; she is sharing her years of experience (freely I might add).

[Greta]

yes and not once have I rejected her advice and I do thank her for it and her time, however why the comments like the one I pointed out? at that point I had not even been back TO this board to read her recs..so what's up with that? Way uncalled for.....

[njchica]

greta, I'm sorry if you feel that we were attacking you or being defensive... it just seemed that you kept asking the same question and we kept giving the same answers...

believe me, we are not "tanning snobs" and I don't think that anyone likes to just throw money around... some people prefer the higher priced lines while others enjoy Emerald Bay and Carribean Gold. If you could see my lotion shelves, you'd see that I have lotions from 15 different brands.... and the prices range from $18 to $65.... I've used dozens of different lotions and found what works best for me, ultimately you'll have to sample sample sample until you find what's best for you. There are lower-priced lotions that are great for your skin... you just have to see which one works well for you.

[texasblonde]

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On 2003-05-10 12:21, star wrote:
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On 2003-05-10 11:44, shauna23 wrote:
I just picked up on this thread about 5 minutes ago and I have to say that I don't think anyone has been giving attitude concerning your question. yes they did. implying that if she 'doesn't like to spend more on quality products that take care of her skin' she is doing something wrong or doesn't measure up.
Well, would it be more suitable for someone to recommend that she run down to the nearest Sally Beauty Supply and pick up a bottle of "Crap Deluxe" or something? This would be one of her cheapest options but it's not going to be that great for her skin or her tanning results. EB and Synergy make cheaper lotions that a lot of people like, you can pick up a decent moisturizer without mineral oil at WalMart, and tanning every other day makes skin less dried out so it tans better. I don't see how offering someone this advice is equivalent to implying that if you don't spend lots of $$ on tanning stuff, you're not taking care of your skin. [ This Message was edited by: shauna23 on 2003-05-10 13:03 ]

[Greta]

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On 2003-05-10 13:02, njchica wrote:
greta, I'm sorry if you feel that we were attacking you or being defensive... it just seemed that you kept asking the same question and we kept giving the same answers...



I was asking dif people, not rejecting anyone's advice, just trying to find several viable options......don't see why that should frustrate anyone....you post it here to get many dif. people's view on it, right?

[teresa]

Yes my last post was out of frustration.....and I apologize if you didn't like my tone...but I repeatedly tried to give you tanning advice within your budget. $50 for 2 months of lotion.....my recommendation still stands......

you are telling me you don't want to use moisturizer and you want to slather on some low end lotion and tan everyday to get optimum results......

I totally disagree with this approach, if you are going to use a $15-20 bottle of lotion, that will only last you 8 or 9 sessions, you will need 5+ bottles per two months if you tan 20 times per month at a total cost of $75-100 for 2 months. Sure if you were at my salon I'd gladly sell you 5 or 6 bottles of Dark-n-Dazed vs. 1.5 bottles of a $35 product....(the low end stuff will make me more money at that rate). Yes, I want to make money don't get me wrong...but my goal is to provide my clients with the best looking, healthiest, tan skin possible within their budget and that is exactly what I was doing was working with the budget you had set for me.

[Greta]

I am looking at your recs teresa, thanks. But I am always looking for more options like I said, so I am still looking for more people's recommendations, that's all. I want to make this clear, I am not rejecting your advice, just want to hear from some other people too, ya know?

[PanAnna]

Well, unfortunately Greta, there are just not that many options available to you at $50 for 2 months if you are going to continue the tanning regimen that you are on now. That is what is making it so difficult to try to find a product to meet your current needs and that is also why we are trying to help you modify this regimen so that you will benefit most. If you are willing to modify your tanning regimen and treat your skin better than your options will open up to lots more lotions because you won't be using them at the frequency that you need to use lotion now. I hope this is making sense. We are not telling you to tan less for any other reason but your health. Just because regulations allow someone to tan once a day doesn't mean this is the best thing for you to do and we first and foremost want everyone who tans to get the most benefit without harming themselves. I know from experience. I had no education at all on skin care and lotions and tanning up until the past few months and the difference adequate skin care and lotions has made on my total tanning experience is phenomenal.

[Greta]

I don't have to tan every day, I said that I DO most of the time, but reducing that is not a problem....I don't think I have said anything to indicate that it was.....only that I don't have much choice about upgrades......

[njchica]

sometimes when I take a few days off... my skin tans much better after the "rest".

[Greta]

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On 2003-05-09 17:13, meltdbutta wrote:

Try the layer of accelerating Oil on top of a lotion, but ask the salon first...
This gives good magnification, and I see great 'perk' colour...

hope to have helped out a little

melty

Melty, can you tell me more about this? I have seen it referred to several times.....

[tanallover]

I usually use oil based products and have had excellent results! Just reapply often!

[Greta]

Thanks tanallover, but I am really looking for lotions, not real crazy bout oil, but thanks for your input. I like a fresh point of view.

[Rich]

Try using Sex Pot, it is made by ETS. They market it under the Caribean Gold label. It has a great bronzer and works real well and retails for about $20-23.

[Anya1976]

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On 2003-05-10 16:36, Rich wrote:
Try using Sex Pot, it is made by ETS. They market it under the Caribean Gold label. It has a great bronzer and works real well and retails for about $20-23.

i've actually heard that this lotion is awesome. a friend of mine from north carolina LOVES it she likes to rub in how good her skin looks after using it too.

[colorgod]

My salon sells Sex Pot, but I haven't tried it yet. If anyone has, please let me know how it is.

[Greta]

oooo, it sounds interesting

[colorgod]

Yes a bronzer and inexpensive. Greta, I think you found one huh???

[Greta]

I think I may have lol

[njchica]

I have Sex Pot and I hate it... it's just a cosmetic bronzer....

as far as the oil/lotion thing, a lot of people like to "layer" their lotions to boost their color. This is another version of layering. You apply the lotion first and then spray on the oil.

[colorgod]

Chica, not everyone will hate a cosmetic bronzer!

[Greta]

I rather like the bronzers, chica, I thought you said you would not dream of laying without a bronzer?

What does the oil do exactly? refract light? attract light? how does it help?

[Rich]

Sex Pot is new for us this year and even though ETS makes it I carry it anyway. We sold something like 300 bottles since the first week of February. It has sold real nicely thank you, and people buy it again when they run out. They love it, I hate it because it stains my tile floors and the beds because the bronzer is so strong. But I can strip the floors and rewax when I sell 300 bottles in less than 3 months.

[colorgod]

Chica doesn't care for cosmetic bronzers that just wash off. She'd rather have a DHA bronzer that stays a little longer.

[njchica]

thanks for answering the question for me colorgod. I just hate hearing cosmetic bronzers called bronzers. I think a more accurate description would be "tinted lotion".

Rich, if it sells then good for you. I imagine that the name and the strong cosmetic bronzer makes it an easy sell... I personally don't like it and am either going to throw it away or give it to one of the players on my lacrosse team.

[Rich]

I really do wish they would trim it down so it does not stain everything so bad. I swear you could stain the trim in your house with it.

[njchica]

sounds great for your skin!

[Rich]

So far no complaints from any customer or employee who uses it. I use it and it works great, although I do use Wild Thing which is the tingle version of sex pot.

[njchica]

I heard that Wild Thing has DHA in it too...

[Rich]

To tell you the truth I don't have a bottle in front of me so I cannot tell you what they use for a bronzer for sure but I would bet it is DHA.

[njchica]

I asked Aaron about it and he said that Wild Thing was the only one in the line with DHA. I didn't realize it had tingle to it as well.... I was going to buy it but I have enough tingles as it is.

[Rich]

It has lots of tingle. I am immune to tingle but this thing lites me up. I like to use it in the leg tanner before I run, it loosens my legs up.

[Anya1976]

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On 2003-05-10 20:42, greta wrote:
I think I may have lol

let us know what u end up buying and how u like it

[colorgod]

What's the retail on Wild Thing? I may have to try this.

[Rich]

retail is about 30

[colorgod]

That's a good price. Def. going to try this.

[PanAnna]

According to the Island Sun Times, Wild Thing is an intensifier lotion with a tingle factor 5 and dual bronzer that retails for $27 (8.5 oz). It is described as "maxxed out tingle, wicked bronzing brew and kickin stick-n-stay bronzer."

[colorgod]

What is the tingle factor 5 like with that company? Is that high or low on their tingle scale?

[PanAnna]

I bet it's really high since Rich said it "lites him up."

[colorgod]

yeah, that's true. Most tingles don't even phase me anymore. I remember I used to be afraid of them.

[PanAnna]

And I still am...and bronzers, too.

[colorgod]

I didn't use a bronzer until this tanning season. I was so afraid that the bronzer would streak or look fake. I haven't had any problems so far.

[BrOnZeDbOmBsHeLl]

quick fix for a low cost lotion...Dark N' Dazed, Dark Kickin Ale, 2Twisted and Bi Polar all these lotions have gone over well and are on the lower end of the price scale.

[Greta]

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What does the oil do exactly? refract light? attract light? how does it help?


can anyone answer this?

[njchica]

the oil serves to magnify the UV rays....

[njchica]

when people talk about "layering" they often mention using a gel and a lotion. The lotion MOISTURIZES the skin and the gel or oil MAGNIFIES the rays.

[Greta]

and how does it help? your tan increases? deepens? by what exactly?

[njchica]

magnified rays=more UV=more melanin production=darker tan

[Greta]

Oxygen does not figure into this equation at all? I thought that had something to do with darker tans?

[colorgod]

Chica, do you know?

You are the science gal.

[Anya1976]

well yea oxygen has to do with a tan too that's why the tingle lotions work so well.. the blood flow to the skin brings more oxygen to the surface while u are tanning which means more melanin production too

[colorgod]

is the melanin oxidized by UVA?

[Anya1976]

don't quote me but from wht i remember i think it it is. if someone knows this answer please post cus i do not want to give the wrong information

[colorgod]

please post

[Greta]

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On 2003-05-09 06:36, njchica wrote:
greta, I am with you on the "layering" thing. I never layer lotions. I don't understand how/why it could work and no one has ever given me a good explanation. My theory is that the different ingredients might interact and cause some kind of negative thing... It also seems like a waste of products, IMO. Why layer with a $70 lotion? Shouldn't it do the job on its own for that price?

I know a lot of people like to layer. I'm just not one of them. I don't get it.


I really need a definite answer on this....
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[njchica]

hello guys and gals... I'm on my quick lunch break here so I don't have time to dig at the moment. I promise I will this afternoon after work, if someone doesn't beat me to it first.

greta, you need an answer on layering? or on oxygen?

[Greta]

I need an answer on both , I was asking you how layering works exactly.......also since oxygen does not fit into the equation you posted, how to explain tingle lotions? etc. I am sure you see how confusing it all is.....

[colorgod]

Greta, there is a thread on tingles on here that is very informative.

[Greta]

I know hon, I've read it. Thx, I'm trying to get a feel for something else here, layering VS tingles I guess you would call it.

[colorgod]

I don't know if those two can be compared. Layering is to get the benefits of two different lotions. Like moisturizing properties of a lotion with the magnification properties of a gel.

[njchica]

greta, i'm pretty sure that I already explained layering as well as I could. I don't actually layer products myself so I can't help you anymore than I have. the idea is to get the most out of both gels or oils and lotions. magnification AND moisturization. Greg's has a good explanation of the theory behind magnification vs. moisture and i'm not going to try to retype it for you.

as far as the oxygen/tingle thing, I've also already explained how tingles increase oxygenation--at least as it was explained to me by my salon. If you are unhappy with what we've already posted on the subject, you might try the "ask the pros" forum or a general internet search. let us know if you find a better explanation.

[Greta]

actually I would say colorgod just explained it to me easily. I was trying to compare things that don't compare so it's simple.

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[njchica]

hahaha so it was easier than we thought. have you decided what approach you're going to use?

[Greta]

well I am thinking about layering with the oil, but I like a red tint, so most likely will be going with a good tingle.

[njchica]

well remember the red tint is only temporary.... it lasts only for as long as the tingle sensation and increased circulation does--a few hours.... and then the circulation goes back to normal and the reddish color goes away.

[colorgod]

Tingle is easier!

[Greta]

I am finding I do enjoy the tingles......

[Anya1976]

i like tingles on occasion i know isee a boost of color when i do use them.