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rvalverde
06-09-2003, 01:26 AM
Has anyone tried those rapid results type of diet and exercise programs that the gyms advertise on tv? Do they work? Those people on the ads looked ripped. I want to be ripped (hahahahaha!)

TanPimp
06-09-2003, 02:08 AM
ive never heard of it before, but there is no such thing as rapid results. I guess if your fat it'd be easy to lose a lot of fat right away with exercise and a diet, but as far as getting ripped, that takes a lot of time and dedication

Bonnie
06-09-2003, 08:32 AM
Those people in the ads are fitness professionals hired to advertise the product. As Tanpimp says, the only way to get ripped is to maintain a yearround regimen of careful diet and exercise as part of your normal lifestyle. And even then you have to have genes that are on your side!

CarolinaSizzle
06-10-2003, 10:18 AM
I agree with both Bonnie and TanPimp......those diets are totally over rated and DANGEROUS to boot.....the models in those ads are in top form and are ripped NOT due to the diet but to A LOT of hard work, good eating habits, dedication and TIME!! If you want to get ripped join a gym ,hire a personal trainer and consider a nutritionist as well. Those diets probably DO work..for the time you are on them but its all very counterproductive and again they ARE dangerous. Losing THAT much weight isnt going to make you ripped anyhow.....if you are very overweight or even a little overweight you will find that any rapid weight loss is going to show the fat more so in a very unsightly way and that in itself can be very discouraging. In order to get rid of the fat and loose the weight you have to go about it ALL in a sensible manner!

TanPimp
06-11-2003, 02:42 AM
las time I checked you cant be overweight and be in shape

PanAnna
06-11-2003, 07:59 AM
I think the word "overweight" is used too loosely and not defined properly. Is weight a good indicator of one's health? I don't think so. I know I am preaching to the choir here but since muscle weighs more than fat, I believe it is conceivable that someone who is at their ideal "weight" is not in shape and someone may weigh more than their ideal "weight" but be in shape due to lean muscle. Low carb diets, if done properly, can result in fairly rapid weight loss. It is the exercise that gets you in shape.

GratefulTan
06-11-2003, 11:19 AM
UGH....Fad diets! I tried Hydroxycut and it didn't work. No quick solutions to weight loss, so eating right and getting some exercise will do the trick!

lilmountaingrrl
06-11-2003, 11:51 AM
I did the whole xenadrine thing.... it definately made me not want to eat, but it was because i felt all speedy all the time, and it wasnt a good feeling.... it was more of a sickly-im-going-to-puke-or-die feeling.

TanPimp
06-11-2003, 12:56 PM
ok I guess I was too politically correct when I used to word overweight. What I meant to say is someone who is fat. Going on a low carb diet and losing some fat does not make you in shape. Losing fat by dieting will only take you so far, exercise will have to take you the rest of the way. Everyone should be eating low carbs anyways, but without carbs your proteins won't absorb. The main problem people have with carbs are that they eat simple carbs instead of complex ones. They need to eat whole wheat bread instead of white bread, etc.

nikptbo
06-11-2003, 01:07 PM
agree with you there, whole wheat pasta is really good.

BrOnZeDbOmBsHeLl
06-11-2003, 01:23 PM
I'd listen to what TanPimp and Bonnie they both have nice bodies and obviously know what they are talking about

nikptbo
06-11-2003, 01:29 PM
that they do... i wish i had the dedication... i did cardio and weights 5 days a week for just a lil over a month with a diet plan and i didnt see much so i stopped, yes i know u need continue but i didnt...

CarolinaSizzle
06-11-2003, 01:44 PM
When you are on these rapid weight loss and fad diets your body is depleted of SO many important things ( vitamins minerals electrolytes and proteins etc) while you are on them one of the major pitsfalls is that your body is first in shock and then tricked into thinking your are NOT hungry and then when you realize how hungry you ARE you tend to stuff yourself full of the complex carbs and sugars as this is what your body has been used to/dependent on and then SUDDENLY derpived of....and its a downhill spiral from there on out. While I am sure and have even seen a FEW people have success in losing the weight and keeping it off I have seen/heard of more who gain even more weight back after stopping the diets. Those who have been successful have also gone on to realize they MUST not only exercise....this includes cardio AND lifting weights in order to keep their metabolisms up to burn the fat and lifting to help tone/tighten/firm the flab that has been left behind as a result of the weight loss but also realize that they HAVE to eat a proper and balanced diet..it has to become a life choice not so much a life style!

Beach*Bum*Bri
06-11-2003, 03:05 PM
My roomate at school tried that Hollywood 24 hour diet. That was the biggest joke ever. All it was was this nasty drink that you drank every couple of hours for 24 hours. Also, you didnt eat this entire time...just drink this crap. I would have to say it was a waste of money for her...but it was kind of funny watching her try to drink the stuff.

rvalverde
06-12-2003, 12:58 AM
Fad diets like the Hollywood diet are dangerous depleting your body of electrolytes, fluid and not allowing you to process nutrients properly, I'm a Nurse Practitoner and understand the physiology behind these terrible diets. I am not overweight, have lost 17 pounds over last 3 months with diet and exercise. Just want to lose a little more body fat, gain some muscle. Maybe what I am more interested in is the trainer component than the diet component.

TanPimp
06-12-2003, 01:36 AM
the diet is way more important than the exercise part

GratefulTan
06-12-2003, 08:01 AM
Anymore I don't care about what I eat. My philosophy is food is meant to be enjoyed, not worried about. But, I do watch what I eat and don't load up on junk.
I was vegetarian like 7 years ago and I can remember more problems with my blood sugar than I have now (I'm hypoglycemic). I try to eat more balanced meals now, load up on veggies and fruit, and hopefully someday I can kick the Diet Coke habit. Diet Coke is doing me in.

Bonnie
06-12-2003, 08:38 AM
Quote:
On 2003-06-12 00:36, TanPimp wrote:
the diet is way more important than the exercise part



Only to a point; you really have to combine the two in some way that raises metabolism and builds endurance and muscle tone. I find that it's easier to eat in a healthy way when I'm exercising more; when I was in California over the winter I wasn't able to get to the gym as much and found myself lapsing back into eating more sugars and carbs.

CarolinaSizzle
06-12-2003, 10:03 AM
Quote:
On 2003-06-12 07:38, bonnie wrote:
Quote:
On 2003-06-12 00:36, TanPimp wrote:
the diet is way more important than the exercise part



Only to a point; you really have to combine the two in some way that raises metabolism and builds endurance and muscle tone. I find that it's easier to eat in a healthy way when I'm exercising more; when I was in California over the winter I wasn't able to get to the gym as much and found myself lapsing back into eating more sugars and carbs.

Once again I agree!

HOW you eat does have A LOT to do with how your body process WHAT you eat..as well as WHAT you are doing fitness wise for your body....some people think a diet high in sugars is good as its said that sugar causes a more "hyped up" mode and really sugars..even a bowl of white rice which is basically a bowl of sugar anyhow, WILL give you that rush but its temporary......what happens after that rush isnt good....your body thinks it needs MORE thus leading to the complex carb load and that leads to body fat!

Like you Bonnie, I find that if I am training daily...doing both cardio and lifting, my eating habits are more conducive to my training habits...I feel more motivated to feed my body the right things. If I lighten up on training even for a few days I can feel the downward spiral coming. I dont give myself the "allowed" cheat day too terribly often because my body responds so negatively to this. When I do a cheat day I try to load up on the simple carbs..even IF I want a KK donut!

Laurel
06-12-2003, 12:04 PM
Quote:
On 2003-06-11 01:42, TanPimp wrote:
las time I checked you cant be overweight and be in shape


Actually that isn't necessarily true. Muscle weighs more than fat so a weight lifter can be over the recommended desired weight for their height because they have a very low percentage of body fat and more muscle. Bonnie might be able to correct me if I am wrong on this.

Bonnie
06-12-2003, 12:29 PM
You're quite right, Laurel! Pro bodybuilders often weigh above what the BMI considers healthy (25 or over). Men can get as low as 6-7 % body fat, women 10-12% and the lean muscle weight is therefore greater. When some people start working out, they often gain weight, which sometimes confuses them!

MaGaLiCiOuS
06-12-2003, 12:29 PM
Yeah... I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard once from a personal trainer that at one point in time Arnold was considered overweight... but that was cause he has SO much muscle.

TanPimp
06-12-2003, 01:20 PM
Laurel - If you read up more, I actually corrected myself. In the future I will refer to "overweight" people as being fat.

MaGaLiCiOuS
06-12-2003, 01:55 PM
lol good one nick