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how does a client know to trust the salon is changing lamps as often as they should? i guess if the color isn't there that would be one way, are there others?
I am not sure there is a way to know if the lamps are being changed. I guess you can monitor the trash and see if they have the boxes piled up but other than that I would not have the foggiest how you could tell.
Jungle Kitty
05-04-2003, 11:01 PM
Also, depending on how often each piece of equipment is used, it could take quite some time before the bulbs even need changing. Some people think that the bulbs should be changed once a week or once a month. This is rarely the case. It takes a lot of 20 minute sessions to build up to several hundreds of hours of use.
Hopefully your salon is doing a good job when it comes to changing the bulbs. Besides not getting any color after some sessions, there is no way to really know. But you can always ask!
Keep in mind this too: I had a client who told me she thought that our bulbs just weren't tanning her anymore. I told her there was no way because the bulbs weren't even close to needing to be changed. I put her on a step 2 lotion and sure enough, she got color. She had hit her plateau and needed a jump start. So sometimes the amount of color you get isn't even bulb related. It can also be the lotion you are using.
Good luck!
JK
zabazu
05-04-2003, 11:25 PM
"Bulbs changed once a week or once a month this is rarely the case." It costs over $8000.00 to relamp!! What kind of bulbs are you using???? Rarely implies that this would sometimes be needed. This is NEVER the case.
Jungle Kitty
05-04-2003, 11:42 PM
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On 2003-05-04 22:25, zabazu wrote:
Rarely implies that this would sometimes be needed. This is NEVER the case.
True but if you had only one bed and were extremely busy, it could happen. You would be open 24 hours and running the bed constantly but it *could* happen. I was just leaving it open because if I said "never"...well, never say never
colorgod
05-08-2003, 08:33 PM
Whatever the case, I hope salons do change regularly. They owe it to their patrons.
Greta
05-08-2003, 08:41 PM
Amen to that......it is what we pay for after all
Anya1976
05-08-2003, 10:45 PM
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On 2003-05-08 19:33, colorgod wrote:
Whatever the case, I hope salons do change regularly. They owe it to their patrons.
yes i have to agree on that i am paying for color not for them to NOT change the bulbs... but i do ask when they change them and IF they've changed them
MoleDazy
05-09-2003, 11:36 AM
(unexperienced tanner question) I am to assume that the bulbs lose potency over time?
TanPimp
05-09-2003, 11:52 AM
One other thing, make sure you know a lot about beds and lamps before you go asking when they change their bulbs. Nothing is worse than some idiot who asks a question that he or she wouldn't know if the answer is good or bad to begin with.
MoleDazy
05-09-2003, 01:53 PM
Curiosity got the best of me. I just assumed they changed bulbs when they burnt out. I wasn't aware that old blubs were a concern to people until I read this thread. I don't think I'm going to bother asking anything about bulbs at the place I tan.
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On 2003-05-09 10:52, TanPimp wrote:
Nothing is worse than some idiot who asks a question that he or she wouldn't know if the answer is good or bad to begin with.
so tanpimp what you mean is you hate it when your clients ask that question? oh say what? you are not a pro? i thought this was the 'ask the pros' forums. well in this case your answer is even more retarded than i first thought. with a name like that what did i expect?
Anya1976
05-09-2003, 06:44 PM
Quote:
On 2003-05-09 12:53, MoleDazy wrote:
Curiosity got the best of me. I just assumed they changed bulbs when they burnt out. I wasn't aware that old blubs were a concern to people until I read this thread. I don't think I'm going to bother asking anything about bulbs at the place I tan.
yes old bulbs that aren't changed will not give u good color. i've heard they should be changed every 800 or 1000hrs (i could be wrong here dont quote me here)
colorgod
05-09-2003, 09:07 PM
TANPIMP I CANNOT UNDERSTAND YOUR POST!!!!
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You go girl![ This Message was edited by: colorgod on 2003-05-10 00:32 ]
TravisMT81
05-09-2003, 11:11 PM
he is just saying not to be ignorant if you are going to ask your salon if the bulbs need changed. And 8,000 dollars to relamp: on what friggen bed????
Anya1976
05-09-2003, 11:43 PM
Quote:
On 2003-05-09 10:52, TanPimp wrote:
One other thing, make sure you know a lot about beds and lamps before you go asking when they change their bulbs. Nothing is worse than some idiot who asks a question that he or she wouldn't know if the answer is good or bad to begin with.
i personally think that anyone asking at the salon if they have changed their bulbs means that they want to know if they EVER change bulbs, some not so good salons really dont change bulbs and the people who tan there are getting ripped off (IMO)
colorgod
05-10-2003, 01:25 AM
how much do you have to know to ask if they change the bulbs? Just ask them if they meter the usuage! Whether or not the customer can really tell, they still have the right to question to see if they are getting what they are paying for.
Anya1976
05-10-2003, 01:56 AM
if they look at u like u are crazy if u ask them if they meter the lamps then you know they don't.
teresa
05-10-2003, 07:58 AM
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On 2003-05-10 00:56, Anya1976 wrote:
if they look at u like u are crazy if u ask them if they meter the lamps then you know they don't.
My employees would look at you like you are crazy!!!! And I do meter my lamps. I usually do it on Sunday evenings when I run payroll reports and the salon is closed. I'm positive very few or maybe none of my employees know this...they have no part of lamp chages and it always happens when the salon is closed.
my salon always posts a sign when they have put in new bulbs and they ask that we lower our times by a couple of minutes.
sunbunny
05-10-2003, 01:28 PM
What's the deal on lamps with black ends? Or flickering? And mixed lamps? Like several beleraium and several velocity all in the same bed. Wouldn't you use the same lamps if you relamped the whole bed? And consistant burned out lamps.
I think the salon we tan in the beds just replaces lamps as they burn out. These beds were awesome in Feb, now they suck. And I have asked about relamping. Never get an answer. We're pretty much just using the booth at another salon now.
nitrooverride
05-10-2003, 04:01 PM
We don't say anything unless they ask.
Same here mr. nitrooveride
nitrooverride
05-10-2003, 04:13 PM
What are you talking about Levi. You aren't in a store long enough to talk to customers. lol.
lalalala, ya i am, are u spying on me or something, go get yourself a dectective to tell u the facts.
nitrooverride
05-10-2003, 04:16 PM
I am with you all the time. We are like best friends dude.
Oh yea, der der der der, I have been to your dads stores many times
nitrooverride
05-10-2003, 04:24 PM
i know. and who has been there?
nitrooverride
05-10-2003, 04:24 PM
Nitro........
nitro has no override, ooops i mean der
nitrooverride
05-10-2003, 04:31 PM
lol.
hehe Winners never quit ouch.. my computer attacked me again
nitrooverride
05-10-2003, 04:36 PM
ok. Stop posting other stuff on here that is not about the topic.
are u copying and pasting that
nitrooverride
05-10-2003, 04:38 PM
yep. cause we are getting off topic. Look under the parking lot to post crap.
Anya1976
05-11-2003, 04:49 AM
Quote:
On 2003-05-10 06:58, teresa wrote:
My employees would look at you like you are crazy!!!! And I do meter my lamps. I usually do it on Sunday evenings when I run payroll reports and the salon is closed. I'm positive very few or maybe none of my employees know this...they have no part of lamp chages and it always happens when the salon is closed.
my salon all the employees know that the lamps are metered they don't do it personally the manager does it BUT they are metered and they are changed when the coporate office tells them they need to have X amount of hours on the lamps b4 they are changed
colorgod
05-11-2003, 03:30 PM
I asked my owner today if the bulbs are metered, and do they need to be changed soon. Well, he got very defensive and said "I'm not sure, I'll check!".
Jungle Kitty
05-12-2003, 10:27 PM
Quote:
My employees would look at you like you are crazy!!!! And I do meter my lamps. I usually do it on Sunday evenings when I run payroll reports and the salon is closed. I'm positive very few or maybe none of my employees know this...they have no part of lamp chages and it always happens when the salon is closed.
I agree. My staff has no involvement in lamp changes. I will tell them when they are changed just in case we have beginner tanners - don't want them to up their time and then get burned.
Also, I think Anya said something about 800-1000 hours. It all depends on the type of lamps. Some should be changed at 800 hours, some at 500, all depends...
TikiTan
05-13-2003, 01:09 PM
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he got very defensive....
Personally I think those who fear an educated tanner have something to hide...If you are taking care of your beds properly you have no problems letting customers know that lamps have been changed, beds have been cleaned, etc.. If they ask..
Tanners should be told when lamps are changed.. If you have built up a tolerance and new lamps are installed..You could burn..
As for metering I do it.. No way could I explain to my employees how to do this correctly or even what to expect, calculate, etc... Do they know I meter? Hmm, it depends on how long ago they personally saw it.. They tend to forget things that mean nothing to them... But you can tell from their tans that I do...
colorgod
05-13-2003, 11:26 PM
Tiki, that was well stated.
Anya1976
05-14-2003, 01:49 AM
Quote:
On 2003-05-13 12:09, TikiTan wrote:
Personally I think those who fear an educated tanner have something to hide...If you are taking care of your beds properly you have no problems letting customers know that lamps have been changed, beds have been cleaned, etc.. If they ask..
Tanners should be told when lamps are changed.. If you have built up a tolerance and new lamps are installed..You could burn..
As for metering I do it.. No way could I explain to my employees how to do this correctly or even what to expect, calculate, etc... Do they know I meter? Hmm, it depends on how long ago they personally saw it.. They tend to forget things that mean nothing to them... But you can tell from their tans that I do...
the managers at my salon do it but all the employees know when it's done. since all beds aren't changed at the same time. even if they don't remember when it was done last they KNOW that the beds are metered on a regular basis
TikiTan
05-14-2003, 02:25 PM
Every employee must know when lamps have been changed.. They must know to so they can cut time back... It is very rare that we change beds at the same time... But they have no idea if when I am tanning I have my meter in there or not.. Also I like to work after hours a lot to get things done.. I meter a lot then and of course no employees are around.. and Im not going to leave them notes that bed #x was metered and came in at... They are clueless!
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